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July 3, 2023 at 2:42 pm #99
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This is a proposal to develop a working definition of rights for this forum.
Proposal
A summary of this proposal:
* A right is a social construct, agreed upon and accepted by members of a society, and applies to all members of society.
* Rights should be declared in the constitution to set clear expectations and a legal mechanism to defend them against the government, if the government violates them.
* Members of a society must obligate themselves to seek justice for themselves and for others when rights are violated.
* The consent of the person or people harmed by violation of rights is not necessary for others to seek justice on their behalf.
* When seeking justice for violation of rights, the goal must be to end the violation, to repair the damage, and to punish oppressors; the goal is not to enrich the victim or the attorney.
* The number of rights must be kept to a minimum that is required to achieve a strong foundation for society.
* Rights that apply only in special situations may require an organization to guard and seek justice against violations.A brief summary of the various concepts of rights that have been proposed:
* Natural rights (created by nature) vs legal rights (created by society)
* Claim rights (obligation on others) vs liberty rights (freedom to act)
* Positive rights (permission to act) vs negative rights (prohibition on others)
* Individual rights vs group rightsA summary of our position on each one of these:
* We don’t use the term “natural rights” because rights are not created by nature, they are entirely a social construct
* We don’t use the term “legal rights” for two reasons: first, we don’t need to distinguish “legal” rights from “illegal” rights and also “legal” isn’t really an opposite of “natural”; second, when discussing the development of rights, we describe a right codified by law as a “statutory” right, not a “legal” one, because “statutory” is more specifically enacted by law where as “legal” is merely something not prohibited by law
* We don’t use the term “claim rights”, preferring to express obligations on others as laws creating the obligation and the system through which the obligation will be fulfilled
* We don’t use the terms “liberty rights”, preferring to define “liberties” which are limited by other people’s rights
* We don’t use the terms “positive rights” or “negative rights”, because rights don’t have a charge or direction; we do prefer to name rights after the freedom they protect (which is easy to remember), but defining them as a set of prohibitions on others which have the effect of protecting the freedom
* We define all rights as individual rights; any reference to group rights is merely a short-hand for a collection of related rights for a specific situation for analysis or discussion, but they exist only as individual rights that apply to anyone in the same situation
* We attempt to define the minimum set of rights that is necessary, avoiding repetitive or duplicate rights that are the same but merely applicable to different situations; there are some cases in which some overlap is acceptable for the purpose of clarity and we try to minimize such occurrencesDiscussion
Rights are a social construct
A right is a social construct. A person alone in nature and not part of a society, has no need for rights and cannot benefit from rights. That person who is alone can have no rights or make up whatever rights they want, and it makes no difference because there is nobody around to violate them or to fight for them. When a person is among others, rights must be agreed upon. If a person claims a right and others reject it, the outcome depends on negotiation or violence. Similarly, if a person seeks justice for a violation of rights, it is obtained through negotiation or violence by that person with or without the support of others, or by others who fight for that person’s rights. Finally, if a person’s injury or death is perceived as a violation of rights, it is up to others to seek justice by negotiation or violence and they do not require the consent of the victim to seek that justice. Therefore, members of society must agree on rights and must obligate themselves to seek justice for themselves and for others when rights are violated. Without such an agreement, rights are not enforced. Without enforcement, rights do not exist.
Adoption of rights
Anyone can propose a right, but to make it work the right must be accepted by the majority. Imagine a situation in which someone proposes that they have the right to take anyone’s property. That right would likely be rejected by a majority of people, and any attempt by that person to take someone else’s property would be seen as a violation and cause a conflict. As a practical matter, individuals should not attempt to enforce proposed rights because they haven’t been accepted yet — it will only lead to problems for them.
When a right has been accepted by the majority, individuals may attempt to enforce that right and have a good chance of prevailing in court in case of a conflict due to the majority acceptance — the jury is more likely to decide in their favor. The right might become a judicial right — created by trial outcomes and enforced by judges due to the concept of precedent. But judicial rights can be overturned at any time, so people who believe in a right should continue to advocate for it to be codified.
The next step is for a right to be established by law. This may be called a statutory right. An example might be patients’ rights which might be established in laws or regulations but are not in the constitution.
The best situation for a right is when it has been accepted by the majority and added to the country’s constitution. At this point it is a constitutional right and the expectation is set for the people, both inside and outside of government, to enforce those rights.
When considering whether a proposed right should be adopted by society, it’s important to determine whether it creates an obligation on others, or a liberty which protects the freedom and permission to act, or a prohibition on others.
Since rights only exist when enforced, there must be an obligation to seek justice when constitutional rights are violated, and constitutional rights must be taught to new members of society — both immigrants and children.
Rights and obligations instead of “claim rights”
We reject the use of “claim rights” that create obligations on others, preferring to express them as a combination of rights which are prohibitions on interfering with an individual and one or more laws creating the obligation and systems to ensure that society meets those obligations. For example, the right to education does not mean that anyone can just approach anyone else and demand to be taught something. Education involves a teacher, a classroom, lesson plans, school supplies, transportation, instructional standards, and a myriad of other things involved all of which cost money or require someone’s time. A right to education is a set of prohibitions on others to prevent interference with someone receiving their education, and separately education laws would create the infrastructure or at least some system in place to provide that education, for example as a public education program.
Whenever a right creating an obligation is proposed, careful consideration must be given to the obligations on society and whenever possible that right should be restated as a prohibition from interference and then accompanied or followed by the adoption of at least one law creating the obligations and a system that will help society fulfill those obligations.
Liberties instead of “positive rights”
We reject the term “positive rights” because freedom or permission to do something must always be limited by the “negative rights” of other people. For that reason, we prefer to express such ideas as liberties, which we define as a freedom or permission to say or do something which is limited by the rights of others and may also be limited by the availability of resources or applicable laws and regulations. For example, the right to travel guarantees that neither the government nor private individuals are allowed to interfere with someone moving from one place to another, but does not grant someone the right to trespass on another’s property, to enter public facilities outside of their operating hours. The right to travel is limited to adults who are not under arrest or imprisonment. A minor, for example, may not be allowed to travel somewhere without a parent or guardian’s permission. These boundaries and limitations should be carefully considered and mentioned in the definition of the right itself or in accompanying explanation.
Rights as freedoms and prohibitions
Negative rights prohibit other people from doing things, and these need to be carefully considered to avoid unnecessarily limiting the freedom of others. For example, the right to consent prohibits forcing or coercing someone to “agree” to a contract. It limits the freedom of other people to force or coerce an agreement, and probably most people would agree this is a good thing and not shed any tears for the villains who are not allowed to force or coerce people. However, it also has a limit on the person consenting to the agreement, which is that they don’t have the right to consent to an agreement that would harm someone else or violate enacted laws.
We prefer to name rights after the freedoms they protect, while defining them as a collection of prohibitions on others. The term “negative rights” may be clear to academics but creates confusion because rights don’t have a charge or a direction. It’s simpler and clearer if all rights are stated using the same pattern — named after the thing they protect, and defined as a set of prohibitions on others which have the effect of protecting whatever the right protects.
Equal rights
Rights must apply to every member of society. If rights apply only to some individuals but not others, they will create resentment. However, some rights are only applicable in certain situations so while not everyone may be in that situation, they are equally applicable to everyone who is in that situation. Group rights are merely organized collections of individual rights. Sometimes people talk about rights as if they are group rights, but this is merely a short-hand for a collection of individual rights. For example, “patient rights” apply to all healthcare patients, “female rights” apply to all females, “male rights” apply to all males, “children’s rights” apply to all children, “worker’s rights” apply to all workers, and so on. We reject the use of “group rights” as a concept that a certain group of people have rights that other groups don’t have. Instead, any reference to group rights must be understood to mean that it applies or would apply to anyone in the same situation.
Minimum set of rights
The number of rights should be the minimum that is required to achieve a strong foundation for society. If there are too many rights, it may be difficult for a normal person to remember all of them and this will cause conflict instead of order. Societies with a large population may create additional rights for special situations with a corresponding organization to guard and seek justice against violations of those additional rights. For example the right to asylum is not one that most people would interact with on a daily basis, but it is something that people guarding the border or working with immigrants might encounter, and to ensure this right is protected some cooperation is needed among the people involved.
Organized enforcement
For example, the category of individual rights referred to as “patient rights” applies only in a medical care setting, but is essentially an application of other rights such as right to life, right to consent, right to equal opportunity, and more. However, because violations of those individual rights in a medical care setting might be difficult or impossible for the patients themselves to pursue, a large society should create an organization dedicated to protecting the individual rights of all people but focusing its efforts on the special situation when a person is a patient in a medical care setting. Other organizations may similarly be created for protecting individual rights of all people in other special situations, such as for students in schools, for defendants in courtrooms, for people seeking asylum, and so on.
Limited rights
Rights are not absolute. For example, if there’s a right to travel, there may still be checkpoints and restricted areas. Or if there is a right to parental control, it does not allow the parents to harm the child or prevent the child’s education. The definition of a right should include important limits where they are known.
Waivable rights
A person is allowed to waive one or more rights in some situations. To the extent that minors have rights, minors cannot waive their own rights — only a parent or guardian may waive the rights of a minor in their care, and even this is limited to prevent abuse.
Obligation to seek justice
An important part of the consensus required to propose, accept, and declare a constitutional right is that people agree to defend that right and to seek justice for themselves and others when that right is violated. Rights are an important part of the social fabric of the country.
Justice for violation of rights
When seeking justice for violation of rights, the first goal is relief, meaning to end the violation. The second goal is correction, meaning to put in place rules and a system of enforcement to prevent future violations by the same person or organization. The third goal is restitution, meaning to restore the victim or the victim’s family to their prior position in the form of returning property that was taken away or compensating for loss or damage or harm. If the harm is irreparable, such as permanent injury or death, the compensation may be increased or the perpetrator may be sentenced to community service. The fourth goal is deterrence, meaning to punish the perpetrator in some way that will deter future violations by others. The circumstances should affect the punishment, such that if the violation was intentional, repeated, malicious, or coordinated the punishment should be accordingly greater.
Judges should not award any sum to a victim that is not due to restitution. If a monetary fine is imposed on the violator for deterrence, that money does not go to the victim — it goes to the treasury.
Judges should only award attorney fees for hours worked at market rates. Seeking justice for a violation of rights is an important duty and attorneys should be compensated enough to make a living but not to be enriched by the process. It is never appropriate to award attorneys a percentage of restitution collected. Reasonable attorney fees should always be added to the judgement such that the victim gets the full restitution they are owed and don’t share any of it with the attorneys.
In cases where the plaintiff is seeking justice for a violation of rights, it should be illegal for attorneys to demand a share of proceeds or to demand that their client compensate them for any fees or rates that are above market rate or that they did not submit to the judge to consider.
Comparison to the United States
In the United States Constitution, the Ninth Amendment states “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” This phrase creates ambiguity because people will undoubtedly claim rights that haven’t been agreed upon by society, and judges will then be ruling in favor of or against rights that maybe haven’t even been discussed by the legislature. When rights are adopted, those are the rights. This doesn’t mean there can never be more rights — society can always adopt more rights but it has to be done the right way, through broad consensus, and that means only the legislature can create new rights. In the United States and other countries with a constitutional document, that law would be an amendment to that document — the most important laws of the land. In other countries without such a document, the new right may be expressed as a law or royal decree.
Comparison to the United Nations
The United Nations has adopted a Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 1 is really a preamble and doesn’t describe any right, but says that everyone has the same rights. That is reflected here where we state that a right applies to all members of society. The concept in the United Nations declaration is that everyone everywhere has rights, and that’s a nice idea but it’s not really a right if there aren’t people who obligated themselves to fight for it, and the United Nations is not an organization that’s going to initiate a war to fight for someone’s rights so it’s only talk. Every society must agree on the rights its members have. We hope that more societies will adopt the rights described and discussed in this forum, because we believe they are important for peace and prosperity.
Further discussion
There are no natural rights
John Locke and Jean-Jacques Rousseau that certain rights are inherent to human beings and cannot be taken away by authority. If we believe the right to life, liberty, and property are natural rights that should be protected by government, how would we ensure that government protects them? There are plenty of examples in history of governments violating these same “natural rights”. In the United States, they were mentioned in the Declaration of Independence as “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” and added to the US Constitution in the 14th amendment: “nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”.
It’s instructive to look at the full sentence where these natural rights are mentioned in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness”.
What is being described in that sentence are rights that are agreed-upon by the people and enforced by the people, that it’s the government’s job to protect these rights, and that if the government violates them it will be held to account, and ultimately abolished if it continues to abuse the people by violating these rights. This is primarily a description of social rights. They are declared, agreed upon, and enforced by people. It assigns credit to a “Creator” but it’s not a creator that enforces them, it’s people who agree that everyone should have these rights. And the declaration mentions that these are only some of the unalienable rights, implying there are others — it should be self-evident that if people come out of the woods saying they have this or that unalienable right that was violated and demanding justice, that they’ll only get justice if other people agree that they do have those rights. If whatever rights are claimed are close enough to what society in general believes, they have a good chance. Otherwise, they are unlikely to get justice for their made-up rights. And that’s because all rights are social rights, not natural rights.
Anyone who believes their rights are natural rights is welcome to let nature take its course, and good luck to them. We have plenty of historical examples where that has gone horribly wrong and we want to do better.
We do believe that it is natural for people and animals to fight for their life, to protect their property, to seek privacy when they want it, and to attempt to either fight back or run away when abused. These are instincts, not natural rights. If they were natural we wouldn’t need to teach our children about them and we’d all know the full list of natural rights.
For example, some people believe that equality is a natural right, and others don’t. Equality can only be measured when two or more people are involved, and it requires judgement. Even among people who believe equality is important, there may be disagreement about what kind of equality — treatment, protection, opportunity, outcomes, or some other kind. The only thing natural about it is that everyone has their own opinion.
Final example, some people believe that the right to due process is a natural right. That cannot be true. Due process was invented by people, it is not found in nature. In any place that has laws and a concept of due process, it looks or works differently. Even in places that have a concept of due process, it might not apply to everyone. In the United States, in 2025 and 2026, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) detained and deported many people without due process. This happened in a country where the Constitution states there is a right against unreasonable search and seizure. The 4th amendment states “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized”. It doesn’t say the rights of citizens or permit-holders, it says people. The text doesn’t mention due process specifically but it is described in the text as a judge issuing a warrant based on probable cause and affirmations and a description of what or who is to be seized. The fact that there are some people who believe that undocumented immigrants don’t have this right, even though the text plainly says “people” and not “citizens” or any other qualifier, is evidence that due process is not a natural right. It depends on people agreeing that it exists and who it applies to and what it means and how to enforce it.
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